[First Police Statement of:]
STATEMENT OF WITNESS
(C.J. Act, 1967, s9; M.C. Act 1980, M.C. Rules 1981, r. 70)
Statement of Charlotte Caroline CRIPPS
Age of witness (Date of Birth) 16 years (10.10.70 London)
Occupation of witness Student
Address 2 Burdenshott Avenue
Richmond, Surrey
01-878-4206
This statement, * consisting of 7 pages each signed by me, is true to
the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that, if it
is tendered in evidence, I shall be liable to prosecution if I have
wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not
believe to be true.
19th May 87
Charlotte Cripps
Juliet Kindersley
I have lived at the above address for about 6 years together
with my parents. I can't remember the date but one Saturday
in march I had been to Stallions Night Club in the West End
of London together with Barnabas KINDERSLEY, Jake CLENNEL
and Sofie THOMPSON. We were walking in the main road by
Leicester Square tube station when I saw Barny and Jake talk-
ing to a man Sofie and I walked up and I started talking
to the man as well. he told us he was staying at the White
House Hotel. Jokingly we said "You can take us there for
a drink". He said "OK" and stopped a taxi. before we got
into the taxi he showed us a contraption which made a noise
like a dog barking. When we got to the hotel we had to sit
in a lounge area as the security officer would not let
us go to his room. he brought us some drinks and sandwiches
and showed us a lot of money. I asked him what his name
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was and he said "Call me Commander Nemo". I noticed that
he wore a black leather glove on his right hand that night
and every other time I saw him. I asked him what he did
and he said he couldn't tell us because it was very secretive
and that he had diplomatic privilege. He then wanted to
go for a drive and we all went with him. I was sitting in
the front and the others were asleep in the back. After driv-
ving around for a while he dropped me off at Barny's house
with Barny. I can't remember exactly which day it was but
I went to the White House Hotel with Barny, Jake and Sofie
again and saw Nemo. He told us he had been asked to leave
the hotel. His bags were loaded into his car and we went
somewhere with him, I can't remember where. One day, we
met him at the Inter Continental Hotel and he took us to
'Good earth' Chinese Restaurant in Knightsbridge. He paid
for it in cash. It was very expensive. After the meal we
went to Heaven Night Club. After a while Nemo said he was
tired and wanted to leave and he gave us £150 to enjoy our-
selves as he felt guilty leaving us.
[Undisclosed material]
I'm not sure if it was a day later or two days later but
I saw him again. I was with Jake and Barny and another girl.
We went to the Inter Continental Hotel because he wanted
us to meet some of this friends. He took us to another hotel.
I can't remember its name. I remember meeting Jason and
Andre. He told me they were just friends of his. he said
Jason was at college and Andre was a Burtons retail salesman.
[Undisclosed material]
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They referred to Nemo as pan, when ever we called him Commander
Nemo they laughed. There was two other men there who appeared
to be very rich. They said they were clothes designers for
Top Shop, Chelsea Girl and shops like that. Nemo said it was
good for us to meet them as they could design our clothes
when we became a 'Pop group'. we all then went to Browns
Club which is near Holborn Station. I overheard Nemo talking
to the two clothes designers. I heard mention of machine guns
and that they had heard Nemo was short of money. Jason took
some photographs of us all. At about four in the morning
Barny and I was dropped off at Barny's house by Jason and
Andre. I do remember that Jason and Andre kept saying they
were friends of Nemos and that he was honest and straight.
Barny and I then went to Italy for a weeks holiday. When
we came back from holiday Jake, Barny, Sofie and I went to
the Churchill Hotel to meet Nemo. He told us we were to meet
a millionaire who was going to back us as a pop group. We
met the man at the Churchill Hotel, he was a fat man who was
a Cypriot. he told us he was taking us to a place where we
could dance and have a drink. We left the hotel and us four
got into a Rolls Royce motor car and Nemo followed behind
in his car. we were taken to some flats in St Johns Wood.
We went into the flats and went to the top floor. I didn't
like it in the flat and asked Nemo if we could go and he told
me to sit quiet and wait. this frightened me and I said to
my friends I wanted to go for a walk as I felt sick. The door
was opened and we were allowed to go. We ran from the flats
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and went home. About two days later we again met Nemo at
the Inter Continental Hotel. He had a woman with him who
he said was his wife. I can't recall her name, and a small
girl he said was his daughter. She couldn't speak any English.
Also there was a coloured man who Nemo said was an old school-
friend. Nemo showed me some passports and credit cards which
had expired. The name on them was Panos KOUPPARIS. He told
us that he had called himself Nemo on the spur of the moment.
I recall the passports were Swiss, Cypriot and English, they
were all in his name and had his photograph in. Then his
mother came to look after the little girl and we all went
to browns Club. He kept saying he was going to make a million
pounds a year and his wife just said yes as if just to keep
him happy. I noticed when she opened her purse it was full
of bank notes. Nemo left with his wife and the coloured man
and we stayed on for a while.
[Undisclosed material]
The last time I saw him he said he had just got back from
Cornwall. He said he had taken his wife and daughter for
a short holiday. It was late at night and he picked us up
from Jakes house. there was the four of us and a boy called
Ian. We went to a Kentucky Fried Chicken shop in the West
End and then he dropped me and Barny off at Home.
[Undisclosed material]
I forgot to say that the time before last that we met Nemo
he took us to a cousin of his named Jimmy SPARKLE. He lived
somewhere in Peckham. We had earlier picked up a woman named
Christine who was also a Cypriot. At Jimmy SPARKLES we sang
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a song and he thought we weren't all that good. Later we left
and he dropped Barny and me off.
[Undisclosed material]
I would describe Nemo as about 35 years, small in height about
5'4". he wore dark glasses a lot and Burton Clothing. He
had black hair and a chubby face and was a tanned Cypriot
colour.
[Undisclosed material]
This statement was taken in the presence of Mrs Juliet KINDERSLEY.
J Kindersley Brian Cartwright DC
[The signatures of Charlotte Cripps and a witness are not recorded on this page]
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[Second Police Statement of:]
STATEMENT OF WITNESS
(C.J. Act, 1967, s9; M.C. Act 1980, M.C. Rules 1981, r. 70)
Statement of Charlotte Caroline CRIPPS
Age of witness (Date of Birth) 10.10.70
Occupation of witness Student
Address 2 Burdenshott Avenue
Richmond, Surrey
878-4206
This statement, * consisting of 1 pages each signed by me, is true to
the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that, if it
is tendered in evidence, I shall be liable to prosecution if I have
wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false or do not
believe to be true.
29th September 87
Charlotte Cripps
M Dillon D/C
Further to my statement dated 19th May 1987, I met KOUPPARIS
with his wife on about three occasions. Every time I spoke
to him I would call him by the name 'NEMO'. A couple of
times he looked 'odd' when I used the name but there was no
noticeable reaction from his wife.
I was present throughout the above interview
Juliet Kindersley.
Charlotte Cripps M Dillon D/C
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